Here are some vast over-generalizations to get everyone up in arms.
Everyone knows that one of the worst mistakes is for an FOB (Fresh Off Boat for the non-Desi (Desi = (fellow) country man, used to indicate someone from the Indian subcontinent) readership) to marry an ABCD (American Born Confused Desi).
I would speculate that the reason lies tied up in the fact that both have certain expectations and fail to make allowances for the differences. I think, in fact, that an FOB-gori/gora (white girl/white guy, or in this case just generic American) marriage have a far greater chance to succeed (once the parents get over the shock, of course).
When two people of vastly different cultures get married they expect that there are going to be differences, and they prepare for the fact that they will have to work on communication and accommodation.
When two people of (ostensibly) the same culture get married, there is no preparation for such allowances to be made: the FOB expects that the ABCD will "get" everything culturally expected of them, and the ABCD who always thought that they were raised in quite a traditional Bengali/Tamil/Gujurati etc. home is shocked to discover that to a large extent they have no clue.
Having thoroughly ruffled everyone's feathers, on to topic two.
I wonder how many people (desi or non) understand how vastly different the Indian experience is in the US from that of the UK and of Canada. Yes, Canada is much more like the UK in that respect than the US.
Most of the desis that Americans between thirty and ten years ago came into contact with were either doctors or professors. Within the past ten years (give or take) add software professionals to the list. While there are some locals who might not like the foreign-ness or the color, the fact remains that most of their exposure to Indians have been with highly educated people in well-respected jobs.
In the UK and Canada, many (NOT all, of course) of the desi population had arrived as immigrants, many with little or no English and either not well-educated, or educated but without the language skills to make the education work for them in those countries. They came prepared to work their fingers to the bone to ensure a better and safer future for their children, who are now in many cases in similar positions as the typical US desi. But within the context of their situation, the parents have worked in mostly menial positions.
To draw the parallel within the States, in Canada and the UK many of the jobs that are performed here by either Latinos or African Americans (depending on the part of the country you're in) are there performed by desis. And people treat them with the same dismissive, patronizing disdain or fear or hatred as those other two population groups are treated in the US.
And just to get everyone completely discombobulated, I wonder whether the difference in desi political affiliations (both on the local front and in India) can be traced back to the fact that desis in the UK and Canada have experienced discrimination far beyond that which an average desi in the US has.

Comments (7)
You are right. To a large extent the nature of Indian immigration to UK / Canada were quite different than how it is here in the States. Bulk of the people headed to US were quite well educated and that probably explains the disparity.
I am not too sure about discrimination issues though as it is quite a subjective topic to discuss.
Also can't agree more on your comments on FOB-ABCD relationship fallouts!!!
Posted by Sowmy | February 26, 2005 4:41 PM
Posted on February 26, 2005 16:41
I know someone who lives in the Bay area; their family from Canada came to visit an exclaimed in alarm and disgust, "You have Indians living next door!"
Posted by Sivani | February 26, 2005 6:57 PM
Posted on February 26, 2005 18:57
oh, i keep ranting that the reason you see that there is very little cultural presence for Indians in US is coz all of us largely came here fr Academic reasons and pushed the children into the same tech based or med based jobs. On the other hand early Indians in UK or Asians in US came here predominantly to search for other forms of livelihood and therefore can be seen in all segments of the society. That's my explanation.
Posted by Sagnik | February 27, 2005 7:30 AM
Posted on February 27, 2005 07:30
From my observation, the Indian parents in the US suffer and work menial jobs with long hours for one reason - their children will acquire the best education possible and thus achieve a higher status. Higher degrees in the US is one thing that prevents discrimination - no one can deny someone a position if they have the credentials. For some time, whites (and I am one) got the jobs because they belonged to the "ruling class". That is changing, thankfully.
Posted by Mary | February 27, 2005 8:55 AM
Posted on February 27, 2005 08:55
I have noticed the difference between the relative apparent positions of Indian-born people in the U.S. and in Canada, and for that matter, in the U.K. However, it seems that this may be changing, at least in southern Ontario; many of the Indian-born people I come ionto contact with there are highly educated and work as professionals. But you're right; it's primarily in Canada, and not on this side of the river, that I have noticed the negative attitudes toward Indians which you've described. I just never put two and two together like that before ...
Posted by Chrysalis | February 28, 2005 11:16 AM
Posted on February 28, 2005 11:16
I'm glad that I've shed some light on the subject :-)
Posted by Sivani | March 2, 2005 4:14 PM
Posted on March 2, 2005 16:14
I feel as if I have discovered a whole new language. No idea it was so complicated.
Posted by Wally | May 2, 2006 9:48 AM
Posted on May 2, 2006 09:48